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Raw notes:
What Should a Web Site Cost?
Opaque nature of cost
Fantasy: online resources – to be named whatshoulditcost.org
Website, meaning content-driven – primarliy text, image (vs Web app – piece of software running in your site; tabular data)
Earn the right to go to drupal and joomla from wordpress – a well-defined process. Wordpress has an uberrobust export single file to rebuild the site without a lot of hoohah – highly migratble, high value. Wordpress host migration wiki.
Is there a free website? Free as in kittens.
- Wordpress.com – instant – 2 versions
- You create your username
- Pay them $14/year, have your own domain name at wordpress.com
- Big mistake to not use your own domain
- Route everything you can through your domain name – you can send to some other destination any time; if you go through their domain, they own you
- $2/month - $25 register domain name, use wordpress.com
- Limited - Cannot customize themes, Tiny set of plugins in wordpress.com – it's wordpress with training wheels
- Can make it look professional, but not unique
- Wordpress is the next step up – more control
Hosting
- rochen.com (hosting only; infrastructure) – expensive $10/month – the right commercial services – quality, uptime, tech support – over the top; specializes in joomla, drupal, wordpress; multiple service – also has a reseller interface; if you want to have more than one cpanel
- Cpanel is a hosting environment (software that rochen makes available); proprietary but really good; a magical thing $8-25/month – state of the art hosting environment – any modern open source system; any numbers of email accounts; manage a universe of forwarders (with temp email, spam bounces back - revenge!); sub domains – cpanel hosting account; - miracle
- social justice implications of who can manage domains - makes it so easy to manage domains – a revolution in that regard – under 300/yr
- Free mentoring from Aspiration to do this
- also
- Design should be no more $2-3k for desiginaction
- Quilted
- Amymade.com – basic design because we love her; under $300
- Riseup.net
- Electric embers $40-50/month hosting, politically solid
How to switch from godaddy.com – scum; network solutions also evil
Numbers dump - If you contract the job out
- hourly fees - $40-$120
- radical design $120/hour;
- $40/hour for web apps – gunner’s peeps
- $75-90 is fair
- $100-150 for web applications
- $1k – really basic, no customization no tweaking – just help get installed, theme, navigation
- Entry level nonprofit wordpress Drupal - $5-10k esp if need graphic – radical designs (outsources design to desiginaction); drupal under $15
- If just posting images, with no design – should not be more than $10k
- Ryan the joomla dude – sms crm solution for $5-15k picnet.net
- For grassroot activists $5k is safe – if off the shelf, much less than 5k
- Cost escalates with in interactive things – should still be under $20k
- discussion forums; bad idea
- mailing list okay with archives
- ecommerce
- donation space – networkforgood as long as you have a nonprofit ein – get the free version; they take out 2% (what visa takes out)
- paypal sucks – absolutely corrupt org – convio not much better. google less scummy; requires sign in, so drop off in donations
- Civicrm good, but still very first generation;
- Salesforce.com $20-30k to customize – proprietary
integration and migration from legacy – crazy money